Watch now | Journey of Change: Wayne Boatwright's Story of Redemption and Self-Discovery Part 2 In this episode of 'Two Dads in a Lab', Keith and the co-host welcome Wayne Boatwright back to share more about his life-changing journey from an unfortunate incident that led him to San Quentin State Prison, to seeking mental health and professional help, and engaging in various self-help groups within the prison. Wayne discusses the concept of the 'elephant and the rider' to describe the struggle between one's conscious self and the unconscious drives that really control behavior. He talks about his efforts to understand his actions and ensure they never happen again by engaging with over 180 different groups and organizations dedicated to criminal justice reform that entered San Quentin. Wayne shares his personal transformation process, including the metaphorical rebuilding of his 'psychic delusion house' from the ashes of his old beliefs and habits, by seeking wisdom from ancient Greeks and Enlightenment thinkers. The episode also touches on discussions about effective parenting and the importance of meeting children where they are developmentally and interest-wise to foster understanding and healing. Wayne's involvement with the organization 'Man to Man' is highlighted, focusing on teaching men how to communicate effectively with their children and improve impulse control. The episode concludes with a conversation about the importance of vulnerability, sharing personal stories, and the hosts' reflections on their own life choices.